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Chino
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Lower trailing arm parts

Post by Chino » 28th September 2017 - 11:23pm

Am I right in thinking lower arm needle bearings and bushes are same as Type 1? What parts will I need if I'm replacing, inner, outer, grease seals? Thanks in advance :)

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Post by broady_6 » 29th September 2017 - 8:03am

Hopefully some useful bits in here for you.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3094&start=200

Ill do some thinking today to remind myself of any details ive missed.
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Post by Chino » 29th September 2017 - 9:03am

Thanks Broady, interesting reading. My upper trailing arms seem reasonably in spec after adjustment, but when on the shake plates yesterday I noticed both lower arms had movement, so will be looking to source bearings/bushes and seals to renew. I seem to remember lowers being the same as lower Beetle parts, if so I'll just get some ordered up.

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Post by Chino » 29th September 2017 - 11:37am

I see VW heritage stock:

Needle bearing with a Type 3 part # (good start): https://www.vwheritage.com/311401301c-n ... lower-8-65
Late bug seal (hopefully will fit?): https://www.vwheritage.com/131405129-to ... ower-large
And bushing (again, late Bug: https://www.vwheritage.com/131401313-bu ... m-i-s-diam

Reckon those will do me?

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Re: Lower trailing arm parts

Post by Chino » 29th September 2017 - 12:58pm

Right, sorted. Mario at T3HQ has managed to supply the required bits :)

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Post by purplepeter » 3rd October 2017 - 8:41am

Please can You keep us updated on this Will?... I've been trying to get some bushes out & failed so far

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Post by Chino » 3rd October 2017 - 8:45am

purplepeter wrote:
3rd October 2017 - 8:41am
Please can You keep us updated on this Will?... I've been trying to get some bushes out & failed so far
I will do Peter. The parts should be here this week but it may be next month before the car goes in for the work due to other commitments. I am guessing some form of puller is required? The gent doing the work for me does a lot of work on old VW's, so will get his thoughts tomorrow, as I am taking my T25 into him for some work. I'll be interested to see the state of my trailing arms, would be lovely to get away with re-using them, but have a feeling I'll be sourcing some others due to years of metal-on-metal action.

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Post by miketyp3 » 3rd October 2017 - 3:27pm

The seal is a Type 1 part you ordered, but the inner bush is Type 3 - 311 401 335A.
The tool I've seen for the job is a slide hammer with a long enough shaft and a thick oval washer with the centre slotted along the major axis.
The idea is the washer passes through the bush by tilting it then as its pulled back it locates on the edge of the bush.
As you've seen the bush is not very thick so the washer would need to be quite accurate.
I have the installation tools if you want to borrow / copy them.
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Post by broady_6 » 3rd October 2017 - 4:16pm

have a look at the link I posted mr purple and you will see the tool I made for removing them. it took minutes with the right tool. I can always lend you it if you cant make one yourself.

Ignore than, I seem not to have posted any photos in my thread. two seconds ill go take some
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Post by broady_6 » 3rd October 2017 - 4:33pm

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I made the upper and lower removal tool. once its in i just used a bit of plate and socket to pull it out.

Nice and easy. The tricky part is getting them in with out damage :)
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Re: Lower trailing arm parts

Post by Chino » 5th October 2017 - 12:58pm

Received my goodies from T3HQ today:

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Post by broady_6 » 5th October 2017 - 10:14pm

sweeeet, looking forward to your build update
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Re: Lower trailing arm parts

Post by Chino » 5th October 2017 - 10:22pm

broady_6 wrote:
5th October 2017 - 10:14pm
sweeeet, looking forward to your build update
I'm afraid I might be a little slow if I'm honest Broady, my day to day car has just cost me best part of £300 for engine mounts and the camper nearly that again getting the servicing up to date :/ before these parts go in, I'm probably going to treat the fasty to some new lower arms too, I imagine mine will be worse for wear when they finally see daylight.

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