Type 3 door hinges.
- Danny Lord
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Type 3 door hinges.
The hinges on a Type 3 door, can they be swapped over?
I have one door that has two hole's in the hinges for a Fast/Square so need to change it over to the 3 hole hinge, will it come apart easily?
the hinge that needs to be removed...
Is that a pin holding it together? dont want to start whacking it and damaging it!!
Danny.
I have one door that has two hole's in the hinges for a Fast/Square so need to change it over to the 3 hole hinge, will it come apart easily?
the hinge that needs to be removed...
Is that a pin holding it together? dont want to start whacking it and damaging it!!
Danny.
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i've done it but feck it was hard work. I had to use an air chisel in the end because whacking the pin with a hammer didn't move it. There's probably a special tool for the job but if it's rusted in you'll be lucky to shift it.
Good luck
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- aircoolsteve
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- Danny Lord
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Hi Steve,aircoolsteve wrote:hi danny. you will have to get it pretty hot with a welding torch before you can shift it. the bottom one will be quite easy compared with the top one as it is quite close to the curve of the door.
oh and you will need some luck!!
steve
Thanks for the Info,
Dont suppose you have the nessessary equipment and some time over the Winter to help me swap them over?
Danny.
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hi dan, i take it that you are going to use a two bolt door on a three bolt car. namely a notch. i have never taken a hinge off a door but i'm game if you are! best thing is to practice on a gash door first. i have one at work that is in a pretty poor state so i'll get it home (where the welding torch is) and give it a go.
when i say hot i mean hot! cherry red i recon to break the seal on the pin.
and the right size drift.
i'll give the door a good look first to see if there is any difference between the fasty/square and the notch version. if you have any pins, that would be handy as i think you have to drift the top pin out part of the way and then cut it off to stop it from touching the rib of the door skin. you won't be able to hit the top pin properley from the top.
steve
when i say hot i mean hot! cherry red i recon to break the seal on the pin.
and the right size drift.
i'll give the door a good look first to see if there is any difference between the fasty/square and the notch version. if you have any pins, that would be handy as i think you have to drift the top pin out part of the way and then cut it off to stop it from touching the rib of the door skin. you won't be able to hit the top pin properley from the top.
steve
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Danny,
there is,or was a special tool for hinge pins-i've seen pics,but not sure where!-might have been in the bentley manual,or oacdp..i'll have a look!
Ok,i've located one:Its vw751..but theres another somewhere-751 is a glorified punch,t'other one is more of a press/puller type thing-i'll locate it and let you know!
in the meantime,this'll give you a few happy hours of reading!http://oacdp.freeweb7.com/docproject.html
there is,or was a special tool for hinge pins-i've seen pics,but not sure where!-might have been in the bentley manual,or oacdp..i'll have a look!
Ok,i've located one:Its vw751..but theres another somewhere-751 is a glorified punch,t'other one is more of a press/puller type thing-i'll locate it and let you know!
in the meantime,this'll give you a few happy hours of reading!http://oacdp.freeweb7.com/docproject.html
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- squarebear
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hinge pin
does anybody know the dia of the pin, dia of the hinge body and lenth of the hinge body? if so i could make that removal tool or a prototype to see if it works, it may need to be a cast unit or even heat teated to take the load pressure, mild steel might just buckle, i've got some stainless which i could try first. if i manage to make one i'll get back to you for address and post it for you to try.
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e-mail recieved thanks, had a quick look and it says weld pieces together and theres no mention of hardened steel so mild should do the job,
- squarebear
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hinges
the drawing does show what strenth the bolt shoulb be, i think this is to stop the end going mushroom effect, i reckon the thread should be ok but like you say its going to be used on 35 year old cars, i think would be best, as was mentioned before, to get some heat in the hinge before using the tool, might be worth me making the top handle longer so you can get some good leveridge on it
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- squarebear
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hinges
just keeping you all informed, got the material for the main body of the part and the programme is written just waiting for free time on the machine(hopefully tomorrow ) and material to make the m8 bolt should be there late weds or early thurs .
- squarebear
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i know what youre saying, we make all our own bolts so force of habit really, if i looked in the stores prob got a box full of them
- squarebear
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hinge
all the bits are made just gotta weld it all together, hopefully will be done on monday
- squarebear
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hinges
was finished but with handle welded on made it difficult to pack for posting so handles comming off and will be threaded.
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Manufacturing?
Folks,
I wonder if there is someone going to manufacture the tool?
Seems to be a very rare one ...
Cheers,
Jürgen
I wonder if there is someone going to manufacture the tool?
Seems to be a very rare one ...
Cheers,
Jürgen
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- squarebear
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its finished
danny are you going the agm? i can give you the hinge tool there if you like?
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Re: its finished
squarebear wrote:danny are you going the agm? i can give you the hinge tool there if you like?
Hi, Yeah I will be there. thanks a million for that
See ya Sunday.
Danny.
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Re: Type 3 door hinges.
Has anyone ever installed new hinge pins? I have nos doors and nos hinge sets.
Any tips? Will the removal tool work in reverse to install new?
Thanks,
Lee
Any tips? Will the removal tool work in reverse to install new?
Thanks,
Lee