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BeeBabs · Post by **BeeBabs** » 13th January 2011 - 2:39pm

I've managed to get a caliper as mine had seized, but I've decided to do the discs at the same time as they are really pitted. Can I buy these or is it a case of getting the originals skimmed?

ARCANE · Post by **ARCANE** » 13th January 2011 - 4:11pm

Have a look on line, Ebay and the like have them same as Porsche 914 I believe!

Post by **Editor** » 13th January 2011 - 4:18pm

The VW published wear limit on Type 4 discs is 10mm - certainly the earlier ones, but maybe I guess another 0.5mm wouldn't be a problem, but you might want to check before going to the trouble skimming them. I think you will be lucky getting new ones easily - there are early (up to '72) and late types (from 73). The early types are also used by 1972 on Type 3 so may just be easier to find retail. Otherwise it's a matter of asking around really.

shawn71 · Post by **shawn71** » 13th January 2011 - 4:43pm

I had a hell of a job with my front disc, bought what I believed to be the correct ones to find that they were the deeper off-set ones.

As arcane has said they are the same as the Porsche 914 and I found mine through a classic Porsche parts supplier, can't remember who or find the link at the moment though...sorry

BeeBabs · Post by **BeeBabs** » 13th January 2011 - 4:55pm

Pleased to say my oh has come to the rescue and managed to get a pair of 914's for £60

Thanks for the replies

shawn71 · Post by **shawn71** » 13th January 2011 - 6:49pm

BeeBabs wrote:Pleased to say my oh has come to the rescue and managed to get a pair of 914's for £60 Thanks for the replies

Good news, just remember that the pads are the same as the 914 ones as well not the thinner earlier ones! And the front wheel bearings, whilst you are there the rear bearings from a VW Polo fit the front of a 412, can't remember which year Polo now though must be getting old!!

Post by **purplepeter** » 13th January 2011 - 10:11pm

Search under VW variant on ebay,
Or machine 7 stock them

kps70 · Post by **kps70** » 14th January 2011 - 10:09pm

The bearings I fitted to mine were off a 1983 polo I think.

Post by **Editor** » 15th January 2011 - 1:28pm

Yes, the front wheel bearings on all Type 4 and Type 3 (inner from late '68) are the same as most of the watercooled VW rear bearings.

kembiff · Post by **kembiff** » 15th January 2011 - 10:37pm

Can we pls make a thread called "alternative parts that fit my type 3&4"?

I will forget this stuff when I most need it otherwise.

Post by **purplepeter** » 16th January 2011 - 12:24am

http://www.vwtype3and4club.org.uk/_docs ... rtswap.htm What?? Like this one Andy??

kembiff · Post by **kembiff** » 16th January 2011 - 1:57pm

That looks very much like what I am on about!

Do kind souls like yourself update the list?

Post by **purplepeter** » 16th January 2011 - 3:53pm

Well...the original plan was that i was going to revamp it with extra features like who stocks the parts,Dimensions from nos items,photos for ident etc but that died a death as people dont like sharing info & theres a fear that if you admit to having nos spares youre going to be plagued with people trying to buy

most other info you might need is in the collective brain,so if you wanna know something try asking..it doesnt always come out of said brain immediately though!

holding a list of who's got what in terms of spares doesnt work either,as people dont like publishing what theyve got & availability/willingness to sell might depend on who's asking
But again,if you wanna know ask

Whatever you do,dont go thinking that if you cant find it,its unavailable & you need to get it remanufactured..ask

kembiff · Post by **kembiff** » 17th January 2011 - 7:35pm

I think the idea of the compatibility spreadsheet is brilliant. Specially since most people on here have owned other VWs before these quirky ones we now have and so have quite a few spares from their previous cars lying about.

Forget your revamping...but pls do update the compatibility like the brakes thing that came up on this thread.

kps70 · Post by **kps70** » 17th January 2011 - 8:23pm

Andy - BMW brakes for the type 4, with the right knuckles.
See my thread
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3802&p=22637#p22637

Post by **Editor** » 18th January 2011 - 1:03am

... and wheel spacers? Or were those because of the type of wheels you had?

I hesitate to recommend a brake caliper mod where you need to remove and hold upside down to bleed, and maybe fit wheel spacers as well.

kps70 · Post by **kps70** » 24th January 2011 - 6:05pm

Spacers are no problem at all and only about £10 per pair. I don't have standard wheels so they may not be needed for some wheels. I haven't played around enough to know.
As for holding upside down to bleed, once they're on this is not a job that has to be done regularly (maybe every few years) so after a bit of faffing, it's fine, it just means jacking the front end up and having both calipers off whilst bleeding. It would be possible to tap another bleed nipple into the top.
Believe me, for these slight hassles, the extra braking is well worth the effort.

BeeBabs · Post by **BeeBabs** » 29th January 2011 - 11:29am

Quick update, the porsche ones fell through

But...... Yesterday I managed to get some nos disks for the 412

at not a lot more than what I was going to be paying for the porsche ones!

kembiff · Post by **kembiff** » 29th January 2011 - 1:04pm

Where? How much? Are there more?

Post by **purplepeter** » 29th January 2011 - 2:39pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-VARIANT-FRONT- ... 588935f518

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-BEETLE-VARIANT ... 58856dce63

http://www.machine7.com/product.php?xPr ... &xSec=1003

http://www.status-vw.co.uk/shop/index.h ... lang=en-gb

shawn71 · Post by **shawn71** » 29th January 2011 - 7:01pm

The problem is Peter that VW changed the offset of the disc on the 412 for the 73(?) model onwards so the disc that state they fit the later Type 3 etc don't fit the last of the Type 4s.

Therefore I would ask the vendor of the disc they have listed on that first link to measure the offset to confirm fitment as I have bitten like that in the past...once bitten, twice shy and all that...

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