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Post by Creationblue » 9th September 2013 - 4:36pm

A bit of an update, n/s sill attacked ready for a replacement

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Thats 2 outer & 1 inner from the same side :lol: Its going to be lighter and narrower if nothing else :D
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Post by Creationblue » 10th September 2013 - 11:59am

Ok so the eagle-eyed amongst you may have noticed the heater tube is missing in the heater channel, so we will reinstate this with some 50mm tube.

As for the sill replacement panel, I have the long one like this

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Has anyone any experience of fitting it? It seems the wrong shape??? What are the bulges either end? Or do we trim the excess off?

This one is the one most seem to use, but surely the 1 I have must fit......

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Post by Editor » 10th September 2013 - 12:22pm

The full sill is the better repair panel. Some short sills are thinner for putting over the rusty one, (a cover sill) but that's the bit that shows after - what you do to repair the rust each end isn't visible so a bit of fabrication should do the job there.
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Post by Creationblue » 10th September 2013 - 12:25pm

Editor wrote:The full sill is the better repair panel. Some short sills are thinner for putting over the rusty one, (a cover sill) but that's the bit that shows after - what you do to repair the rust each end isn't visible so a bit of fabrication should do the job there.
Thanks for the reply so are you saying ill need a short panel to cover the long panel once fitted? Question sounds daft but the long panel doesn't look the right shape to me
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Post by Creationblue » 10th September 2013 - 12:58pm

Just had a look and it's the bulges at the front and rear of this repair panel that bears no resemblance to the A & B post, so once this is cut off things will make more sense.

Looking in the heater channel there seems no sign of a heater tube was this present in all models?

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As I run J tubes and the fact someone has welded the heater tubes up under the rear seat Im not foing to put the heater tube in that is present on some of the cross sections Ive seen, anyone have any opinions on this?
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Post by Creationblue » 10th September 2013 - 1:20pm

On the upside the front beam is now sorted and free of any movement 8) Taking the fuel tank out to get to the steering coupling, and whilst its out sort the master cylinder issue, I have a M/C but not the rod, so if I cant lay my hands on one then we will make one :)
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Post by markthehat » 10th September 2013 - 6:26pm

rod is the same as beetle one, theres one in the beetle master cylinder thats in car at the moment. Nice to see she's getting the love she deserves :-) i've got some spare 'rusty' stickers if you want them :D if not my new car will be 'rusty 2' :!:

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Post by Editor » 10th September 2013 - 9:59pm

Looks like someone beat you to it with sill repairs! Those weld blobs you've cut through aren't factory spot welds!

I wouldn't want to repair it how they did it, but with few of the recent safety improvements having been installed in the Type 3 back then, not having that sill structure probably won't make much difference if the worst happens! The heater in an unmodified Type 3 is good while the car is moving, but you can always put on an extra jumper.
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Post by Creationblue » 14th September 2013 - 2:36pm

A bit of an update

A lip was fabed to weld the inner sill to

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A pillar cut out and a piece made up

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Inner sill made to measure 8)

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Nicely finished off ready for the outer sill section

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The inner wing looks in great shape too 8)
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Post by Creationblue » 19th September 2013 - 6:39pm

And job done on this side 8)

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Nicks done a great job, just needs a coat of paint and on to the next side.

Inner wing is solid too so that's a bonus, I'm going to wire brush the old underseal off then stone chip it before applying some Baltic blue 8)
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Post by Creationblue » 19th September 2013 - 9:10pm

Could someone show me where the holes should be in the heater channels/sills as I need to empy some waxoyl in them once painted
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Post by Editor » 20th September 2013 - 2:45am

Are you putting the sill trim on? That gives you several holes for Waxoyl (5 wide trim or 7 narrower trim each side in total). There are a couple of holes on the top of the sill which are covered by the doorstep strip - they stop water flowing into the car if water sits there with the car at an angle. They're pretty close to the top seam, so they get covered with the narrower doorstep strip - you may have a wider, aluminium one.
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Post by Creationblue » 20th September 2013 - 9:19am

Thanks Dave, yes sill side trims will be going on, I don't have any sill protectors though, so if anyone has any ill be happy to take them.
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Post by Creationblue » 25th September 2013 - 9:10pm

Next update, on to the rear arch

Bit of rust as expected

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But not too bad

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Hold on.......

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Oh dear

Seems to be some weight saving going on

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:lol: more welding
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Post by brimfull » 25th September 2013 - 9:51pm

That looks exactly like my car, think they must all rot about the same :crybaby: :lol:

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Post by Editor » 26th September 2013 - 12:36am

Oh yes, they do!

One of the main culprits is the underseal, coupled with the foam seam sealant. They both dry out and crack in time, leaving gaps for water to track along. That's probably how the heater channel was rusted out. Water gets in through cracked underseal and via unsealed seams directly into the sill structure. It often comes out at the front foot-'well'.
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Post by Creationblue » 26th September 2013 - 8:57pm

Someone had good fibreglass skills in fairness, an area about 10" close to the seatbelt mounts need to be patched, it's coming along nicely though
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Post by Creationblue » 28th September 2013 - 6:04pm

I had a couple of hours on the square today, attacked the inside of the front and rear wings with a wire wheel then painted the them with Wurth rust killer, then ran out or time (sorry Nick). Next up is to paint the inside with hammerite so they should last forever!

The inner wings are gonna be cleaned up, painted with stone chip then a cont of Baltic Blue 8)

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Post by Creationblue » 29th September 2013 - 8:30pm

These are gonna look sweet when complete

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Post by Creationblue » 30th September 2013 - 10:10pm

Well it looked pretty good.....

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A bit of reconstructive surgery required, gonna interesting to see this get built up. Well at least it's going to be solid once finished :lol:
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Post by Creationblue » 1st October 2013 - 6:04pm

And some nice fresh steel going back in 8)

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Post by 937carrera » 1st October 2013 - 6:47pm

You have no idea how nervous it makes me when people post photos from what looked to be a solid shell :roll:

Still, like others, you seem to have the skills to do a good job of doing the metalwork :thumbsup:
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Post by Creationblue » 1st October 2013 - 9:00pm

937carrera wrote:You have no idea how nervous it makes me when people post photos from what looked to be a solid shell :roll:

Still, like others, you seem to have the skills to do a good job of doing the metalwork :thumbsup:
It does make you wonder what lies beneath that's for sure :shock: as for the skills needed, alas it's beyond me, fortunately Nick @ CJ Motors in Bristol has it in abundance 8)
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Post by Creationblue » 2nd October 2013 - 10:39am

coming together nicely

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Post by Creationblue » 2nd October 2013 - 9:55pm

Final strengthener in place

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Seem sealed 8)

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Now to do the end of the sill that Nick was supposed to be doing :lol:
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