1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by 937carrera » 23rd June 2018 - 11:44pm

I was looking at this

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/in ... odest3.php

and now this, available on T2 68-79

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/in ... stype2.php

so you're OK, no need to repaint :badgrin:
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1974 412LS Variant
1973 412LE 4 door Fastback / Saloon

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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by 937carrera » 23rd June 2018 - 11:52pm

and what it's like at full scale

My dad & next door neighbour had '73 vans in this colour

a taste of things to come

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1974 412LS Variant
1973 412LE 4 door Fastback / Saloon

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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 24th June 2018 - 12:57pm

Yeah I was looking at the samba too, this bit in particular

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That looks very plasticy to me. It must be the limitations for screen displays. But I havent really found a photo of it I like. Yet the real thing is just amazing. So hopefully in the not too distant future it will be that colour
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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by 937carrera » 3rd July 2018 - 11:27am

How's it coming on ?
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1974 412LS Variant
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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 3rd July 2018 - 11:36am

Havent touched the ole banger for a week, been away on a tour and at a concourse for work. Got to have a good dribble over Nick Masons 250 GTO!
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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 15th July 2018 - 8:41pm

A little while between drinks, mostly the same and same and same. So there arent many photos to show.

Its just been a case of shaping up.

My first focus was this little number on the front end.

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And as there was plenty to do I worked on the rear wing as while one was curing the other was being sanded.

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I struggled like buggery with the wing. It was wither the right shape are the bottom, or the top. After chatting with a friend whos pretty handy with the body work he asked what I was doing. Id been using a foot long velcro backed rigid sander. He said a how maid sander will be loads better.

A slice of hardboard, double sided tape and a roll of 80 grit later.

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And a decent smaller version on some firm firm.

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I havent got any further photos of the wings yet but they're much more the right shape. Ill snap some pics tomorrow. I try not to handle my phone when my hands are covered in filler dust. Here is the front end.

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Corners coming along well too.

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And I knew it was coming so last weekend I put the podcasts on and sanded the roof down.

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And just about smooth. One small depression which I have filled. (the blue patch just above the B pillar)

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Ive also set about the rear valance and its coming on so much quicker than I had hoped. But the down side is the 944 seems to have a poorly engine, so I pulled the front axel off that and got the sump off saturday morning. Though I still dont really know whats wrong with it :(
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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 9th August 2018 - 9:29am

Starting to find it a pain to work on the roof panel at such height and getting a little fed up with the small casters on my dollys going any which way and struggling with the load. I need to start hanging panels on to check ive got the shaped up nicely, so it was time for the body to come back down to earth. For this to happen I needed to build up the pan.

I was met with this from my old handbrake cables when I pulled them out, so which it was easy to do I put a new pair in.

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The new (4 year old less than 1000 miles) axel boots on the offside had both split. Top quality stuff ive bought there!

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So that was removed from the car and bench built, fortunately I have a few original drive shafts with nice original boots, which aren't perished and still supple. I removed two of these and installed on the car.

I threaded various other cables through with lots of lovely grease, to get to this point.

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This was just a bit of a fun, the earth strap was very grotty, before and after photo here. I put it in a jar of diesel over night, then spray with brake clearer and it looked all nice and coppery again. I know it wont last 5 minutes once it rains, but hell it looks nice for now.

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Before I went any further, I wanted to check everything was suitable protected. It was then I noticed the two rubber bungs in the shock towers and realised a that cavity projection wouldn't hurt in there.

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My inner chimp took over though as one of them simply wouldnt come out and i ended up pulling it with plyers, which im sure you guess has torn it in two. So if anyone has any of these grommets im happy to buy a few off you, ive been through my stash and I only have the bigger diameter ones. Typical eh!

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With my inhibiting completed I set about fitting the pan seal. I arsenal was as follows.

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With it all trimmed to the fit the corners I put a few dabs of tiger seal on the contours it didnt want to follow, laid it on and held in place over night with pan washers.

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The following day this meant the moment was upon us, I cleaned up the various mounting rubbers, sleeves and fasteners. Then aligned the body and the pan.

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I tried to lift the back and manually but I simply hadn't eaten enough wheatbix to be able to do it. So I took a risk and used this block of wood and my trolley jack.

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The front was easier as I could lift it manually and lower on to the body.

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A couple of hours with a tin of copper grease and a selection of bolts so it all fastened down for the last time, I hope!

I thought it was time that i finished the repairs to the body.

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As expected I found a rotten drain pipe, which the previous person who repaired this didn't bother to fix so its rotten through again.

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With this handy hack saw blade I managed to cut the rotten bit out.

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I then got carried away, I replaced the rotten section with a piece of house pipe and tried to seal up the panel. But I hasnt worked very well, so I think its all coming back out this evening to be improved.
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Re: 1971 VW Type 3 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 13th August 2018 - 9:26pm

Let close this off then. Having cut it open again I took one last photo.

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Then inside the boot on each side I drilled a 10mm hole through which I can spray dinatrol. VW seeminly never created a way to get in here and its a water drain! What did they think would happen. Once waxed up ive got a couple of grommets to seal these off.

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Once id welded up the skin I started shaping the filler. Between working on my rear valence. And I must say this have come one quite well, still one or two small ripples to remove, but its 90% there.

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Otherwise ive just been going over the hold body starting at 80g and getting finer and finer. at 240g now so not far from 400 then I can think about some primer!
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