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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Editor » 28th July 2015 - 1:05am

They seem to be down to below £20 in the UK on Ebay. That's about what mine cost when I got it while in the USA for a Type 3 event over 10 years ago. It's taken them that long to come down to a sensible price in the UK though. Rip-off Britain!
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 28th July 2015 - 9:52am

Eyup Broady, yes been here a while now. :)
The shrink/stretch is an amazing tool. Makes loads of repairs possible.
Have a look on you tube, my favourite purchase so far, I'm looking at welding masks next.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 28th July 2015 - 10:58pm

Been back doing a bit, I think an auto mask will help loads with neatness,Image
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I also got hold of an adjustable scat distributor, to mess with probably more trouble than its worth. But should help fine tuning once dialed in
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 30th July 2015 - 7:25pm

My Mrs bless her took kids out to give me a chance to do a bit.
So got my Welder set up and working better.

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Definitely need an auto mask :)
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So I'm now halfway down passenger side
An ok bonus session all in all :)
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 30th July 2015 - 7:51pm

arrrgggh efin photobucket :)

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Re: 68 Fastback

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 30th July 2015 - 8:03pm

don't know what's going on doesn't seem to like pic's and words together.???

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 6th August 2015 - 10:56pm

Been cracking away at the pan edges, nearly finished the left side, only one more piece, to make then that's the pan done.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 6th August 2015 - 11:08pm

whilst this was going on, I ordered some panels from Germany,
a pair of rear seat lower corners

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and blew the budget on a pair of full cills
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also, as i was jacking up the car to remove the passenger side wheel,
it flopped sideways???? on closer inspection it turns out the bottom ball joint bolt has sheared!!! allowing it to fall out, only thing I can say is im really happy to find this now. does make me wonder. How long has it been like that?? Scary stuff.....

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by broady_6 » 6th August 2015 - 11:50pm

Whats the sills quality like? Shall I be ordering some this time next year???

After doing my bean earlier this year a man of you skill will overhaul yours in a matter of days :)
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Editor » 7th August 2015 - 2:52am

Looks like the wrong bolt has been used - they shouldn't come out any significant distance, and shouldn't be able to release the ball-joint pin. The bolt should go though where the ball joint is waisted!

The under seat repair patches are rather easily fabricated, particularly with access to a stretcher/shrinker. I had to cut little fillets out to curve the sheet round, but it gave something to weld into. Sills are a different story though. Nice work!
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 7th August 2015 - 10:20am

Last bit first, I'll have a look at bolt I agree looks like some one has forced on oddball one in.
I'll be checking the car over carefully now!!
And I'm not that impressed with the seat corners I thought they would save time, they also have pie cuts everywhere :)
I should have made them myself, but I'm trying not think about it too much :).
And finally the cills..... They look a pretty good fit at this stage, they will need a fair amount of trimming to fit.
They do have marks/lines from the pressing process and a few small wrinkles here and there but not bad at all, also have a small piece of wheel arch (which is rotten on my car) so will help me no end. My car had cover cill/door steps that I tried over these and they fitted as good as they did on the car, im sure without too much work they will look original ,so I'ts a big thumbs up from me :)

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Editor » 7th August 2015 - 12:24pm

I don't think the guy in Germany has a very sophisticated workshop to make things in. He could do with buying a stretcher/shrinker too, but at least he's trying to supply stuff that's needed. Unless it's visible externally, a sound repair is what's needed, and as most of our structure is covered, it doesn't matter much how pretty it looks, apart from the satisfaction of an 'invisible mend'.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 7th August 2015 - 2:22pm

You make a good point there Dave. I was unimpressed with myself for buying them, as they are a bit crudely made compared to what I could have done... BUT, I will say a good fitting piece, that will work, and I would recommend them to others. They do fit which is where I'll save time, trial and error etc. But yes I was being lazy. :) which is why I wasn't as happy (with myself) as I am with the cills as I couldn't make them at home. So another thumbs up for the seat bottom corners :)

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by brimfull » 7th August 2015 - 5:48pm

Tight yorkie mick wrote:whilst this was going on, I ordered some panels from Germany,
a pair of rear seat lower corners

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I was thinking they didnt look too bad and would make life easier but maybe I'm being lazy lol :D
Could you put a link to where you got them from please?
cheers Steve

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 7th August 2015 - 6:32pm

Yes no problem mate , there from eBay (German) type3konny
Item no 141730321642
he speaks good English
Ps look in his other items ...he has a few repair panels for sale

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Post by Editor » 7th August 2015 - 11:52pm

If you're fitting the lower outer seat-belt mountings, try to save the heavy pressings that act as backing on those panels. The nuts may be good enough to reuse, but the plates spread the load well, and look right from below for the MoT tester.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by 74westy » 10th August 2015 - 9:11am

Where did you get your rear bumper mount panels from? they look different to those I can find on the net, more accurate.

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Also I've just replaced both sills on my 70 Fastback with the same ones you are going to use. They fitted very well except for at the front where the profile was not quite right, (so my panel beater said. I can post some pictures here on your topic if you like.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 10th August 2015 - 2:51pm

74westy wrote:Where did you get your rear bumper mount panels from? they look different to those I can find on the net, more accurate.

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Also I've just replaced both sills on my 70 Fastback with the same ones you are going to use. They fitted very well except for at the front where the profile was not quite right, (so my panel beater said. I can post some pictures here on your topic if you like.

Cheers
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Hi mate, I found them on an old Vzi thread and paid a fortune for them,
I've not seen another pair.
And yes please on the pics of the cills fitting. Thanks much Mick

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 10th August 2015 - 3:13pm

Hang on, I just looked and he is advertising 2 pairs so may still have a set, but sit down,
they were not cheap :)
http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=645903
Ps I'm looking for lower rear wing repair panels like he has on the thread ( unfortunately sold his five years back :( )
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 10th August 2015 - 3:23pm

Editor wrote:If you're fitting the lower outer seat-belt mountings, try to save the heavy pressings that act as backing on those panels. The nuts may be good enough to reuse, but the plates spread the load well, and look right from below for the MoT tester.
One of mine fell off as I was poking around :) the other needs unpicking , do you have picks from underneath Dave?

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by purplepeter » 10th August 2015 - 10:35pm

Would a partial template of the Rear bumper mount panels be of any use Mick??
I fitted what I believe were genuine vw panels a few years ago & took the opportunity to draw around them before fitting.. I gave up on making true templates due to the difficulty of representing the swaged edge, But might be of some use?

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 11th August 2015 - 7:29am

I'd like to see a pic or two please purplepeter.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by 74westy » 11th August 2015 - 7:57am

Hi Mick,

Here's what I started with. Both sills were shot and the left side was badly rusted by the wheel arch.
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Under the skin
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Sill being offered up
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Front was a bit of a problem
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So they cut the end off and used the bits to remake it
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But they did a good job, all finished. The other side is equally as good
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I did this with the body on the pan, if I was to do it again I would separate the two to be more confident of a 100% job. But i'll fill it up with fish oil and rust inhibitor and it should be good for many years.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by purplepeter » 11th August 2015 - 1:05pm

74 westy- it looks like they've missed out the inner strengthening web panel! (That's the big heap of rust that drops out when You remove the outer sill)

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