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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by 74westy » 12th August 2015 - 1:55am

I know Purplepeter I was so disappointed about that. I didn't know there was a web until after they had started on the sills and by that time they had nearly finished one side and it was too late. So I just got them to carry on without them. I don't think they are there for rigidity but maybe to separate the outer sill from the inner and heater channel. The panel beater has done work on other Type 3's and has not seen the web before, but then again it most always ends up as a pile of rust. I'll add it in next time.....
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by markymarc » 12th August 2015 - 12:36pm

Nice bit of welding on this little baby, I wish I could weld.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 12th August 2015 - 6:38pm

Thankyou for the pics Craig, they will help when I start mine.
And thanks for the comment Marc, I'm looking forward to getting this on the road,

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 20th August 2015 - 9:18am

Went for an auto welding mask, but because I'm childish it had to be this one Image

I am very impressed with it, should help with my repairs.

Also got all repairs to floor pan in, still needs return lip trimming back but all done on to cills next.

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Post by Editor » 21st August 2015 - 10:58pm

It certainly saves a load of money to do the fiddling fabrication, and is very satisfying to save all that dough too, and do a good job. You don't have to be a tight yorkie to appreciate that!
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 23rd August 2015 - 12:43pm

Editor wrote:It certainly saves a load of money to do the fiddling fabrication, and is very satisfying to save all that dough too, and do a good job. You don't have to be a tight yorkie to appreciate that!
No but it helps :unibrow: :D thanks for the kind words.
I do enjoy the repairs but my favourite bit is,
the first go up the road. The Fasty style is certainly growing on me, I may look into another type 3 after this is on the road. I've always fancied a notch but the square certainly looks a useful tool. I may have been converted :)

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by markymarc » 23rd August 2015 - 6:38pm

loving your welding TYM......shame I moved my squareback down to essex......I could have done with you!!
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 7th September 2015 - 10:26pm

Thanks mate. Yes a bit far to pop over :)
Back from my holidays I'm back into it.
Trimming and fitting the cill and having a nose at how bad/good it really is.
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Looks like the over tube is still there, I decided to cut the original step back to see inside and to rust treat and paint, as the new cills are a nice fit, made more sense.
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This is looking from underneath, ouch!! Won't be that bad really just a bit fiddly.
In this pic a repair edge curved at front and cill mocked up
That looks better :)
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Lots of trial fitting and trimming to do.
Anyone got pics of this area as I'll be making an edge here too, I did look at my mates rust free square but slept since then and he lives an hour away.

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Also front edge of cill is same as 74westy says a different shape, new one has an indent that I've cut out and will make an original shape section for it.
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More later folks.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by purplepeter » 7th September 2015 - 10:29pm

You know they're handed don't You?

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 7th September 2015 - 11:44pm

purplepeter wrote:You know they're handed don't You?
:D had me for a minute there, I get it now.
I'm fitting some full cills with extra meat at the rear , these have the u shape bit and inner arch attached.
The front door pillar bottom is indented on the cill but a full square on the car, not sure if later cars are different? I'll post a pic tomorrow.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by purplepeter » 8th September 2015 - 8:06am

Oops! Sorry for the moment of horror - I thought They were short sills that only do what You can see when the wings are on
Check the fit of Your Wings before You go too far on welding up the sill

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 8th September 2015 - 9:01am

No worries, i was thinking have i? :) good tip about trial fitting tho. Still plenty of trimming and mock up to do. Hoping for an hour or so this morning.

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 22nd September 2015 - 8:50pm

Bit of an update, did a few under Chanel repairs as there wasn't much to weld the sill to
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Lots of fun working upside down

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Then moved to the wheel well area
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Ready to trim to length after trial fit over pan
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by col1600 » 22nd September 2015 - 9:22pm

A serious bit of work hapnin right there...keep it rollin
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 22nd September 2015 - 11:31pm

Thanks col feels better now I'm making a bit of progress
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Onto sill next

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 23rd September 2015 - 1:22pm

This bit next Image
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 23rd September 2015 - 1:22pm

Thanks mr editor ;)

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Editor » 24th September 2015 - 12:20am

You can call me Dave, Mick (if that expression isn't copyrighted now!).
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 24th September 2015 - 8:35pm

Editor wrote:You can call me Dave, Mick (if that expression isn't copyrighted now!).
:) no worries Dave ,
Managed a couple of hours today, I trial fitted the sill and thought I'd better sort the rear corner first as it would close off areas I may need to get to. I knew there was some fibre glass but not this much
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Leaving me with this

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I bought myself an engine hoist earlier in the week, skinting myself , then thinking , I should have bought paint/tyres window rubbers etc but now I'm happy I did , I used it to lift up the rear body

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Worked a treat,,,I'm well happy
Looking from underneath the complete corner and lip needs work, the corners I bought are going to be perfect and save loads of time.


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Also I'd put front tyre under car whilst I did the wheel well, it looked like this when I pulled it out today!!!!
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Don't know when this happened never heard a bang! I am changing wheels anyway so no harm done, gulp!

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Editor » 25th September 2015 - 1:46am

Looks like you're better off without that tyre anyway! Check the others for cracks.
That rust is typical, and happens because the seams in the air intake boxes have seam sealer which has cracked over the years and allowed water to track behind the thick factory underseal. The seat-belt mounting reinforcing plate doesn't help either, trapping salt and damp.
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 25th September 2015 - 2:03pm

Luckily I'm not using any of the og rims, looks to have blown with some enthusiasm.
Only one seat belt strengthening plate was left, I'll make a couple off new ones up in a more flush design,
Been at it again today got a few hours in, the corner make up is fairly complex so I ended up chopping most of it out
Here's where I started
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Made up a rough plate
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Then slit it to match curve in body, I did try shrinking ,but it was too wide and would have warped
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The plate needed to be in between the body and the curved lip of the edge so chopped the lot out and trimmed off the bits I need
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Then chop!!
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It's at this stage I wonder what happened to the fairly solid car I bought :)
Started to feel better once I'd put this bit back in
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Still lots to do, next was the inner lip edge, ( the outside is completely missing)

A nice reference pic (found on the samba) it's approximately 60mm wide (internal)
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I'll make up an outer edge next session.
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Repaired a few other bits inside too
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Next is outer curve and then look at the repair sections I bought and see if they will save me any time or not, I may just do the repairs myself and sell these on ? See how i feel next time, once it's all ground back. More later :)

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by col1600 » 25th September 2015 - 2:52pm

Keep on grafting the panels in and before long you'll have a finished car, no hold on that's what I said to myself and it took 4 years!!! All the usuall places mick an your getting it done, keep going

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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by FASTY72 » 25th September 2015 - 6:53pm

Looking good so far. These pictures look so familiar. All the same places. When its all done it will be worth it. Really enjoying driving my solid Fastback. :)
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 1st October 2015 - 1:29pm

Thanks fellas :) small steps and I'll get there some day:)
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Outer lip made up,

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Not the prettiest welding but will be solid once fully finished and fettled back, should look a bit prettier too :)
Next is to trim this to fit edge to edge
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[/img]Taking ages this but will be worth it. :lol:
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Re: 68 Fastback

Post by Tight yorkie mick » 1st October 2015 - 1:31pm

Decided to use the over panels as I had used up the sheet I bought, as they are ment to be over panel repairs, they don't fit exactly and needed a fair bit of trimming, so I chopped out all the old frilly bits
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Was still a bit small but I can make up the fill in bits,
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Underside cleaned up a bit too, happier now it's going back in :)
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