'67 Square continued.....

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'67 Square continued.....

Post by sparkywig » 7th January 2017 - 6:38pm

Hello, I'm the new owner of Justin's 1967 Baltic Blue squareback.
His time with the car can be found in his build thread here.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=8663

I've owned a few early bay window buses over the last 30 odd years, so I'm used to rusty old RHD aircooled VWs.
The current one is a slightly modified '69, and there's a build thread on the earlybay.com forum here.

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5562

Anyway, back to the squareback.
The plan is to get it MOT'd and on the road ready for me to take it Belgium in March.
Unfortunately it's been sitting outside in the yard engineless for a couple of years so there's a bit of work required.
Still, I've got two months to sort it. :lol:

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One of the first jobs was to replace the front screen rubber that was letting water into the interior of the car, and unfortunately undoing some of the previous work.

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It's not too bad under the rubber, so after a bit of cleaning up some rust preventer and paint was applied.

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Screen refitted with new rubber and a bit of sealer.

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The rear wasn't leaking, so I'll keep the new rubber for a later date.

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Post by sparkywig » 7th January 2017 - 7:01pm

The outer door scrapers have been letting water in as well, and the door sound deadening material has trapped the moisture and rotted the offside door out from the inside.

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Fortunately the nearside door hasn't suffered the same fate.

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Although both doors have rotted along the bottom inside where the skin meets the frame, so I'm after a pair of decent doors.
A couple of hours scraping the old sound deadening off, a bit of rust preventer and primer were applied. A square of new sound deadening stuck on and a liberal coating of cavity wax to slow down the rot.
While the doors were stripped the window winders were given a once over and the window channels a quick squirt of silicone lube.
The old leaking door rubbers were also removed and new ones fitted.

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The nearside wing was removed, the inner arch area cleaned up of old underseal, rubbed back and a coat of paint applied.
The wing appears to be off a later model, so it was modified to take an earlier side marker and seal.

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Then a few hours removing the dynamat that had previously been fitted, as this had trapped the water under it and started to rot the floorpan in a few places.
Also exposing a previous repair. I'll bare metal the floorpan and deal with this at the same time as the repairs and installing some proper seatbelt mounting points..

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I've slightly changed the planned schedule of works and will leave the metalwork until after the mechanicals are sorted and engine is refitted and running.








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Post by sparkywig » 7th January 2017 - 7:07pm

So today I started on the jigsaw that is a type 3 engine and tinware, after cleaning off a large amount of congealed oil and retorquing the loose case nuts. :roll:

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Frustration set in later as the oil cooler mounting stud threads were damaged, so replacements were fitted and the oil cooler, breather tower and cylinder tinware was installed.

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I ran out of suitable fixings for the fan shroud so will leave the reassembly until next weekend when the new bolts, etc will have arrived.





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Post by sparkywig » 20th January 2017 - 10:10pm

So, engine almost ready to refit. The lack of carb linkage rods may be a bit of an issue though.

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I'll give it a tidy up and some proper plug leads when it's running again and the car is mobile.
The sound deadening in the rear was soaking wet and falling apart, so it was removed and binned and the floor and wheel tubs cleaned up with a rotary wire brush.

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The engine bay received the same treatment.

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And then a coat of Rustoleum rust reformer primer and black top coat for protection.
It was then pushed into the workshop ready for the engine to be fitted tomorrow.

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Been a while since the engine bay was occupied. If I get time I'll free the brakes off and see if I can sort the gearchange issues while it's on the ramp.
Looks like the rear hub seals need replacing as well.




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Post by sparkywig » 21st January 2017 - 5:20pm

So today was partially successful.

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Engine in, but battery dead and carb linkage rods missing so not fired up.
Gearshift issues seem to be sorted, but not enough time today for hubs seal replacements and brakes.
Maybe next weekend.
Still after a pair of heat exchangers though.




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Post by Editor » 26th January 2017 - 1:14pm

They're still here somewhere!
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Post by sparkywig » 4th February 2017 - 7:15pm

Engine in and running at last, although not as well as I would like. I'll get some proper plug leads later.

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Got a slight gear shift issue as well, the shifter keeps popping out of the shift rod when going into, but mostly changing back out of, reverse.
Seems like there's way too much play at the stick, and it sits a long way over to the nearside as well.
All the bushes are in place and the rear coupler looks OK, any ideas?

On to the bit of body work.
Front nearside floorpan and body.

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A bit of work required here I think.....

And the rear footwell. Large repair plate previously fitted to cover one small hole in floorpan. Water's been trapped underneath and perforated the metal in a number of places, so it all had to go.

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Post by sparkywig » 7th February 2017 - 9:04pm

Perhaps these will cure the rough running.

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No body modifications required to fit apparently. :|

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And the hex bar linkage is junk. I'll cut the ears off the air filter castings to tidy them up when I fit a CSP bellcrank linkage.
A bit of 8mm fuel pipe and a tee, and hopefully it will be back running in a few days.



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Post by Editor » 9th February 2017 - 2:34am

You may need to seal up the gap in the engine cover to prevent exhaust fumes getting sucked into the interior. I understand that can even happen with a poor tailgate seal, but I've not experienced it myself. I had a leaking heat exchanger in my Beetle years ago which made my wife ill - it was her side. I don't think the Beetle really liked being displaced by her. ;-)
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Post by sparkywig » 10th February 2017 - 10:06pm

I'll sort the gaps and modify the engine hatch after I've got an MOT.
The new carbs and CSP bellcrank linkage went on today and it's runs lovely, especially now the plug leads are on in the right order. :lol:

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Post by Stebbo66 » 4th March 2017 - 9:33am

Hi Simon,

We met in Spa last year, Im Paul's mate (Myvanway) aka Angry Ginger Man!! Lol

After that trip I fell in love with Squarebacks! I did really want Rolands OG paint one that he had at his workshop but couldn't quite afford his asking price! :-(
I have now got a Rhd Australian import which I picked up late last year.

Great Squareback you have there dude.
Hope to catch up at a show this year maybe.

Cheers.
Adam.



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Post by sparkywig » 5th March 2017 - 8:17pm

Stebbo66 wrote: Great Squareback you have there dude.
Hope to catch up at a show this year maybe.

Cheers.
Adam.

Hello Adam
it looks good from 30m. :lol:
I'll hopefully have the square in Ninove next weekend.




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Post by sparkywig » 7th March 2017 - 8:54pm

Had a minor issue with the rear brakes, the rear drums awash with brake fluid.

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New rear wheel cylinders and shoes sorted that problem.
Got a set of Rivieras from Kinky Mick at a bargain price.

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Post by sparkywig » 7th March 2017 - 9:05pm

So, it's home at last. MOT'd, taxed and insured.

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Got a few perforation issues with the floorpans and lower inner wings, so it was decided to do enough metalwork for the MOT and get to Ninove, and then order a pair of KlassiFab floorpans from C&C to be replaced over the summer/autumn.

It's had it's first wash since I don't know when, a bit of T-Cut and a quick wax. Interior stripped and cleaned using the water that came in after the jetwash..... :lol:

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Heat exchangers and pipework fitted and then off to JPR Tuning in Yate for a jetting session on the rolling road.

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A whopping 58.4 bhp and 85.3 lb/ft, not being able to get more than 2/3 throttle travel didn't help.
Another issue to be sorted.

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Next stop Belgium. :D




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Post by vwed » 9th March 2017 - 1:33pm

Have a good trip!

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Post by Stebbo66 » 9th March 2017 - 6:00pm

Enjoy Ninove.... ;-)
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Post by sparkywig » 14th March 2017 - 6:58pm

vwed wrote:Have a good trip!
Stebbo66 wrote:Enjoy Ninove.... ;-)
Thanks Ed, Adam, I did, but the square never came with me.
I have oil pressure issues at the moment so the bus came to the rescue.

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I was a bit gutted to be honest that the squareback never made the lineup.

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Lovely back to '89 car there after a full resto.

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My favourite for some obscure reason. :D

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Post by Stebbo66 » 15th March 2017 - 6:08pm

Looks like you had good weather.

Cheers for sharing pics. :-)
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Post by ShrediKnight » 27th March 2017 - 2:42pm

Nice, good to see the Square back on the road! Your doing a really good job on her.

I used to own her back in the early 90's. Got her on the road after a few years off sitting around. I did see her in Bristol a couple of years ago.

I do have the nearside floorpan if your interested. When we got the car back on the road the driver's side floorpan was toast so got a set of good floorpans and fitted that side only and kept the passenger one.

I also have one of the chrome sill trims, if your heading to a show at some point will gladly give it to you so you can put it back where it belongs!

Anyhow look forward to the next update,

Mark

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Post by sparkywig » 28th March 2017 - 5:17pm

ShrediKnight wrote:Nice, good to see the Square back on the road! Your doing a really good job on her.

I used to own her back in the early 90's. Got her on the road after a few years off sitting around. I did see her in Bristol a couple of years ago.

I do have the nearside floorpan if your interested. When we got the car back on the road the driver's side floorpan was toast so got a set of good floorpans and fitted that side only and kept the passenger one.

I also have one of the chrome sill trims, if your heading to a show at some point will gladly give it to you so you can put it back where it belongs!

Anyhow look forward to the next update,

Mark

Hello Mark.
I'll definitely have the n/s floorpan off you, and any of the other bits you may have there.
The square will be at Bristol Volksfest this year, but I can pick up the floorpan if you message me and let me have your details. :)




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Post by sparkywig » 1st April 2017 - 8:26pm

I think I've sorted the oil pressure issues, stuck pressure relief springs seemed to be the culprit.
So today I went for a drive to make sure everything is OK.

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Nice Beetle at the garden centre, looks like a daily driver.

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One issue I do have though is the nearside door mirror, can't see too much no matter how it's positioned. Will a lhd driver's mirror make any difference?

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Post by Kai » 3rd April 2017 - 6:31pm

You have beetle mirrors fitted, type 3 ones are specific to type 3's, they don't have the extending arm.

nice car too

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Post by sparkywig » 7th April 2017 - 9:29pm

So the sun came out again today, and I couldn't resist a drive in the square.

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Unfortunately I didn't get too far.
The car's not been running right since I've got it really, and it started to misfire and smell of fuel. Finally cut out about 20 minutes from home and wouldn't start. Opened the engine hatch and heard lots of gurgling from the n/s carb, took the air cleaner off to see a fountain of fuel gush out all over the engine.
Great. :?

Stripped the carb down at the side of the road to find this....

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Looks like the float was fitted upside down, no wonder I couldn't get it running right. Reassembled the carb and it started straight away.
Drove home and parked up, looks like the next job is an oil change.




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Post by Editor » 8th April 2017 - 12:43am

Well done for sorting that at the roadside.
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Post by sparkywig » 22nd April 2017 - 8:49pm

So today was sort out the rough running issues day. Another trip to the rolling road at JPR Tuning in Yate.

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I did get them sorted in one way I suppose.

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Considering a new 1600 twin carb engine had 65 bhp and a maximum top speed of 84mph, my 1641 with Weber IDF 40s has 58.5bhp and reached a maximum road speed of 62mph.

As one of the chaps at the rolling road said "it seems to be a little tired...." :lol:

Oh well, looks like an engine rebuild is added to the list.

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