Engine rebuid progress
Engine rebuid progress
A few years ago, I removed the engine from my fasty to give it a clean...
I ended up stripping it down to the cases, it ran perfectly before I got my mits on it I then lost intrest and its sat ever since.
Anyhows, I've been inspired again and am hopefully going to rebuild it and get the car back on the road...
Current state ....
Anyone know where all the bits go?
I'm ordering a new top end kit for it, pistons/pots/heads etc tomorrow, as you can see the cases have "furred" up.. Anyone know the best way to remove this? Wire brush on a drill?? Also I share the garage with my father, who likes to do wood work and everything is caked in sawdust...
I dont really want to split the cases, do you think I'd be safe to rebuild the engine and flush it a few times to rid any dust from the internals before running it?
Peeps, please prepare yourselfs for plenty of questions as I go through the rebuild
I ended up stripping it down to the cases, it ran perfectly before I got my mits on it I then lost intrest and its sat ever since.
Anyhows, I've been inspired again and am hopefully going to rebuild it and get the car back on the road...
Current state ....
Anyone know where all the bits go?
I'm ordering a new top end kit for it, pistons/pots/heads etc tomorrow, as you can see the cases have "furred" up.. Anyone know the best way to remove this? Wire brush on a drill?? Also I share the garage with my father, who likes to do wood work and everything is caked in sawdust...
I dont really want to split the cases, do you think I'd be safe to rebuild the engine and flush it a few times to rid any dust from the internals before running it?
Peeps, please prepare yourselfs for plenty of questions as I go through the rebuild
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Use the parts book pictures to help work some of it out.
http://home.clara.net/hallvw/type3/T3pbo/index.htm
Post a pic of any bits you're having trouble identifying.
http://home.clara.net/hallvw/type3/T3pbo/index.htm
Post a pic of any bits you're having trouble identifying.
Dave.
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kinda similar..uses the same equipment,but sodium bicarb as the media,which reacts with hydrocarbons in a splat effect!
It's what they use to clean buildings in Bath!&engines-I bought a case that had been sodablasted,and it looks like its been sprayed silver,its so clean!
Having said that,theres not a lot of point,given how little of the case can be seen on an assembled engine!
You have to be carefull about the wire brush/electric drill routine
google or search volkszone
It's what they use to clean buildings in Bath!&engines-I bought a case that had been sodablasted,and it looks like its been sprayed silver,its so clean!
Having said that,theres not a lot of point,given how little of the case can be seen on an assembled engine!
You have to be carefull about the wire brush/electric drill routine
google or search volkszone
Sorry to bump an old thread, but the engine is now fully disasembled I'm hoping to get it fully rebuilt over the up and coming winter months as and when funds allow.
First off I want to get the cases and other bits and bobs soda blasted as previously recomended, but cant find anywhere to do this.... anyone got any suggestions for me?
First off I want to get the cases and other bits and bobs soda blasted as previously recomended, but cant find anywhere to do this.... anyone got any suggestions for me?
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I understand theres a guy in swindon who does it..i'll try to find the details for you!
failing that,your local machine shop is a good alternative-get them to run it through a hot parts washer.
or if youve got a compressor,you can soda-blast it yourself..but 2 warnings-it goes really absolutely bloody everywhere & you get very funny looks in sainsburys when you buy every single tub of bicarb theyve got!
failing that,your local machine shop is a good alternative-get them to run it through a hot parts washer.
or if youve got a compressor,you can soda-blast it yourself..but 2 warnings-it goes really absolutely bloody everywhere & you get very funny looks in sainsburys when you buy every single tub of bicarb theyve got!
i wire brushed my case n the amount of $h!t that can off was unbelieveable and mine didnt look as 'furry' as urs. i split my case n cleaned it as good as i could, but as pete sed, jus b careful if ur not splittin the case cus $h!t loads comes off with a wire brush, and u dont c alot of it if u hav the oil air filter
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Tracked him down thanks, cases are off to him tomorrow to be blasted, I'll get some after pics, incase anyone else is interested to see how good this soda blasting is...purplepeter wrote:I understand theres a guy in swindon who does it..i'll try to find the details for you!
One other q? I have 2 pulleys for some reason, one has 3 timing marks, and the other has 4, anyone know which would be for my engine (72 model)?
I'm guessing one is early and tuther late?
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the pulley with 4 marks are for 1600 and early 1600e models
and the 1 with the 3 marks is for late 1600e models
but its not the age of the car its the engines age. if its the original engine use the 3 mark one. if its not the cars original engine n this engine came out a early style car then the proper pulley for that engine is the 4 mark one
if u aint sure maybe only 1 will fit?!
its only to help set the timing, any1 who knows what there doing will get it rite anyway!
and the 1 with the 3 marks is for late 1600e models
but its not the age of the car its the engines age. if its the original engine use the 3 mark one. if its not the cars original engine n this engine came out a early style car then the proper pulley for that engine is the 4 mark one
if u aint sure maybe only 1 will fit?!
its only to help set the timing, any1 who knows what there doing will get it rite anyway!
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That might become quite a problem then!!kyle wrote: its only to help set the timing, any1 who knows what there doing will get it rite anyway!
3 slot one it is then... thanks for your help mate.
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There are diagrams of the fan pulley timing marks on the timing pages at www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/type3ign.htm - just find the one for your engine number.
The timing instructions assume the original distributor number is installed - it depends on that.
The timing instructions assume the original distributor number is installed - it depends on that.
Dave.
Yes, Haynes are always up there, both Type 3 and 4.
The Type 3 manual that is worth looking out for if you have auto or FI is the Bentley one that uses VW of America workshop pics - much clearer than Haynes, but doesn't deal with carbs at all (USA didn't have them after '67) or give you some non-official methods and hints.
The Type 3 manual that is worth looking out for if you have auto or FI is the Bentley one that uses VW of America workshop pics - much clearer than Haynes, but doesn't deal with carbs at all (USA didn't have them after '67) or give you some non-official methods and hints.
Dave.
its pretty easy really cool air hav a pretty good instructions (with pictures) for the block, but do the oil cooler 1st cus it was a bit tricky bolting it on with the barrels in the way! then the block, then the back part of the fan housing connecting to the stat that bolts under the right hand side head, onto the sump. fan then lower pulley then the other part of the fan housing. lower tins n the rest is straight forward good luck!!!
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Ok, so the cases are now reunited, new main bearings and cam shaft bearings fitted, so far so good...
Gotta wait a couple of weeks for payday before I can afford new pistons and cylinders, so thought I'd fit up the odd bit or two to the cases in the meantime.
Now I've gone to fit the fuel pump as seen here....
But does it just bolt on and job done? Is this it in its entirety?
I seem to remember on carbed models the was a push rod running down to the cam? Shouldn't there be something simular used here?
Gotta wait a couple of weeks for payday before I can afford new pistons and cylinders, so thought I'd fit up the odd bit or two to the cases in the meantime.
Now I've gone to fit the fuel pump as seen here....
But does it just bolt on and job done? Is this it in its entirety?
I seem to remember on carbed models the was a push rod running down to the cam? Shouldn't there be something simular used here?
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the rod rests and is pushed up and down by the distributor shaft.
so it that a injection fuel pump? cus i aint never seen one of those so i dont no if it has one but some engines hav a pump pedistol and the rod goes in there to keep it straight.
b4 i changed my but engine it didnt have the pump pedistol so i dont no what stopped the sidwards movement cus i never took it apart
lookin good tho
so it that a injection fuel pump? cus i aint never seen one of those so i dont no if it has one but some engines hav a pump pedistol and the rod goes in there to keep it straight.
b4 i changed my but engine it didnt have the pump pedistol so i dont no what stopped the sidwards movement cus i never took it apart
lookin good tho
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That's the cold engine enrichment device for an injection engine. The underneath bit is a bimetal strip that turns to close up an air-passage as the engine oil warms up and the need for an enriched mixture gets less.
In an injection engine, when you open the throttle or allow more air into the manifold it injects more fuel.
That's certainly where the fuel pump goes on a carbed engine, and it needs a push-rod to work.
The fuel pump on injection engines is at the front near the fuel tank and filter.
In an injection engine, when you open the throttle or allow more air into the manifold it injects more fuel.
That's certainly where the fuel pump goes on a carbed engine, and it needs a push-rod to work.
The fuel pump on injection engines is at the front near the fuel tank and filter.
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